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I have long chronicled, here and in the newsgroup, my sense of the business
case issues driving a declining long term outlook for Microsoft’s commitment to
its Money personal financial management application. I did this based on
external evidence available at the time. See "When, if
ever, will we see Money(next)?"
On Wednesday, June 10, 2009,
Microsoft will stop selling new M+ licenses and associated activation keys on June 30, 2009. This will have no impact on existing users or their data or the online services they use via Money. But don’t ignore this date—it may prove important to you as noted below.
Microsoft will discontinue all online services provided uniquely by or via Money on January 31, 2011. This will have no impact on the data you have stored in a working Money installation. It will eliminate a number of things including: “Internet Updates” including patches, stock quotes, “via third party” downloaded transaction data, and, perhaps strategically most important, application Activation.
At some point beyond this, the WindowsLive ID interface used by Money, if enabled by the user to authenticate user access to their data file and to the “via third party” transaction data downloads, will probably be discontinued or broken. At this point, a working Money installation would no longer be able to authenticate you and allow you access to your data file.
Fundamentally, all the issues associated with Microsoft’s abandonment of Money come down to just two areas of concern:
Data protection – what must users do to preserve the data they’ve already collected in Money?
Maintenance of capability – what options do users have to continue to meet functional objectives they use Money to satisfy today?
Many of us have almost twenty years of the entire financial history of our lives in our Money data files. Worse, for many of us it’s the sole source of this history. For this reason, it is vital for Money users to consider what they must do to preserve access to this information and to weight the efforts they feel necessary against the amount of value they place on this information.
First, let’s define some terms:
Not activated – a copy of M+ that is not activated only allows read access to data files after ninety days from installation
Activated – a copy of M+ installed and activated, not later than January 31, 2011, with an available application key.
Expired – a copy of M+ that has been activated and provided its entire term (two years from activation or, now, January 31, 2011, whichever comes first). Expired copies of M+ will not have Microsoft-provided online service.
Existing activated Money installations will continue to provide access to existing data in your Money data files for as long as the installation (computer hardware, OS, etc.) continues to function—provided you remove WinLive/Passport authentication at some point before that service breaks. If you believe that your existing installation of Money will work without fail for as long as you need to access the information already in your Money data file, then you needn’t anything driven by Microsoft’s announcement.
If, on the other hand, you plan on buying a new computer or reinstalling the operating system on your existing system or your hard disk is getting a little long in the tooth, there are issues to consider.
No new Money Plus sales after June 30, 2009: You will not be able to buy new activation keys or download the installable file after this date. If you do not have any keys available for activating Money Plus, you will not be able to create a new installation that will work for anything besides reading your data file.
No Money Plus activation after January 31, 2011: Any installation of Money Plus after this date will not activate even if you have keys.
The short form: you need to take action NOW to assure that you have what you
consider to be sufficient available activation keys (typically each purchase
will activate on two different platforms, IIRC) for any installation you plan
between now and January 31, 2011. This may mean you need to
spend more money, yet this
month, with Microsoft on the Money product
(It ought to be unnecessary to state the obvious: you need to protect the installable file and your activation keys with backups or having purchased them will have done you no good. I know this should be obvious but all too many users just don’t get it. After June 30, 2009, you will no longer be able to obtain the installable via “legitimate” distribution channels.)
Loss of Internet Updates after January 31, 2011: Activated and unexpired installations will not be able to get the patch updates after this point. For M+ users, this is probably not a big deal as there have only been two and they didn’t fix much of consequence. But you might want to be sure and save a backup of the MNYCoreFiles folder just in case. But M05 users, who otherwise may avoid the whole activation problem, must keep a backup copy of their MNYCoreFiles as any reinstallation that cannot be updated will likely be unable to read their data file. Loss of Internet Updates also means you won’t be able to get updated investment symbol quotes, exchange rates, and tax rates. There are manual workarounds to these limitations that may or may not be suitable depending on how you use Money and your expectations. Lack of Internet Updates means there won’t ever be any new bug fixes (not that there ever were many, but…)
“Worst Case Scenario”: If, at some point, you are unable to create a working
activated installation or did not remove the WinLiveID/Passport from your file
before that service breaks, you may find that all the data in your Money data
file is effectively lost to you. If this would be a problem, then you should
take steps to de-couple that data from the Money data file. Microsoft provided
some hints about this on their
Note that the mechanical methods that exist (reports exported to .CSV, XML, text, QIF export, MoneyLink query) all have limits on what they can capture and there are many data elements in Money that cannot be mechanically extracted by present broadly available (database file hackery excluded) means. (Notes in details of categories, accounts, classification, transaction notes, transaction attachment file URIs, budgets, paycheck element tab assignment, to name just a few.) Each user will have to consider what that data is worth and plan on capturing it by hand to the extent that they care enough to invest the effort. It is possible that Microsoft or others will provide information and/or tools to get around some or all of these issues at some point in the future. Again, each user should consider their plans in light of what is available, not what is rumored or wished for.
To many of us, Money is a mission critical tool for management of our ongoing financial lives. We use it to plan retirement and to track what bills we need to pay tomorrow. We use it to manage our investments as well as our day-to-day financial tactics for cash flow management and investment purchases and sales. With or without Money, we have to continue managing these things. Microsoft’s announcement alluded to all these “great” capabilities on the web to do this stuff, but many of us—and the insightful people at Microsoft who are not in the PR department—know this just isn’t true. So what do Money users do? First, they must assess what they have valued in their use of Money.
If you cannot function without downloaded transaction data, you need to
determine how you are getting that data if you are getting it from within Money.
If you have to supply both a WinLiveID/Passport and a user account and password
appropriate to your FI’s web site, then you are probably getting the data “via
third party” and this capability will end when your copy of M+ expires or by
January 31, 2011, whichever comes first. Your bank may provide alternate ways
for you to get the same data. For the bigger banks, posting in the
If you can’t function without downloaded quotes, you will also have to find alternate tool(s) to Money.
If you made it past those two gates, then there seem to be no particular reasons you cannot continue to use M+. The primary issues associated with using M+ essentially forever the activation issue discussed previously as well as those outlined below.
Alternate tools: Alternate tools are already being discussed at great length
in the newsgroup
Perpetual use of M+: Once you get past the lack of online services, the principal issues associated with using Money in perpetuity come down to:
Activation: Only an installation activated with an available key and updated with the patches prior to the January 31, 2011 cutoff will be suitable for long term use. Except as noted next in the next item, this implies keeping that computer running and not having a hard disk failure and not reinstalling the operating system.
Compatibility in the computing environment: Money has been reported by testers as compatible with Windows 7. Even if methods are found—endorsed by Microsoft or otherwise—to get around the activation requirement, there is no assurance that Money will work in future computing environments beyond that. Sure, a hallmark of the Windows ecology is that running legacy apps in future environments is a pretty important requirement. But it’s no sure thing. However, this problem has become so pervasive that there is a new technology that may help us solve our Money in perpetuity problem. The prime approach I am considering to assure ongoing M+ capability is to get a M+ activated and patched installation running in a Win7 virtual PC (VPC) running Windows XP from a virtual hard disk (VHD). This allows an entire WinXP environment to be encapsulated in a file (the VHD appears to be a hard disk to the virtual PC but is just a disk file in the host environment) and run as long as it is located on some host system (Win7, Win8, whatever will run a VPC from the files on the VHD). That, potentially, supports keeping that one last golden M+ activated installation usable for a long time. This is all theory on my part as I haven’t actually tried it yet. I may be nuts. But it seems the best option going forward and it does address both the computing environment compatibility problem and the activation problem.
It will never improve: Lack of new development means that things like the Tax Estimator and Retirement Planner will never be updated to track any future structural changes in how taxes are determined. Given the lack of functional development in Money since roughly 1998 and the present lack of better alternatives to what Money does today, this doesn’t seem like it can really be considered much of a loss. But it must be a consideration.
If you have benefited over the years from
As always,
Dick Watson, maintainer of this unofficial microsoft.public.money FAQ
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